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	<title>Comments on: Talking to ATC: &quot;you, me, where, what&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: Best of the Web: Learning to fly &#124; Plastic Pilot</title>
		<link>http://lahso.megginson.com/2008/09/06/talking-to-atc-you-me-where-what/#comment-1085</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Best of the Web: Learning to fly &#124; Plastic Pilot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] me improve my radio communication skills by distilling the essence of ATC communications to &#8220;You Me Where What &#8220;, which I had never been exposed to before. I also owe a great debt of gratitude to Sam for [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] me improve my radio communication skills by distilling the essence of ATC communications to &#8220;You Me Where What &#8220;, which I had never been exposed to before. I also owe a great debt of gratitude to Sam for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: randall g</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[randall g]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like to avoid words like &quot;at&quot;, &quot;for&quot; or &quot;with you&quot;, but always give current altitude and target altitude if climbing or descending. For instance, &quot;Vancouver Centre, TUM level 11000&quot; or &quot;Vancouver Departure, TUM 1800 climbing 3000.&quot; Recently in SFO class B there was &quot;Oakland Centre, CGTUM 8500 descending pilot&#039;s discretion&quot; - I was previously cleared into class B with descent at pilot&#039;s discretion on the way to Napa from Santa Monica.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to avoid words like &#8220;at&#8221;, &#8220;for&#8221; or &#8220;with you&#8221;, but always give current altitude and target altitude if climbing or descending. For instance, &#8220;Vancouver Centre, TUM level 11000&#8243; or &#8220;Vancouver Departure, TUM 1800 climbing 3000.&#8221; Recently in SFO class B there was &#8220;Oakland Centre, CGTUM 8500 descending pilot&#8217;s discretion&#8221; &#8211; I was previously cleared into class B with descent at pilot&#8217;s discretion on the way to Napa from Santa Monica.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://lahso.megginson.com/2008/09/06/talking-to-atc-you-me-where-what/#comment-1083</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[david]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grant and Michael: thanks for the comments.  I agree with Grant that the IFR check-in can still fit the pattern, and I will try to do my best to post more for Michael.  In the meantime, here are some past postings that might be interesting:

http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2005/05/19/analog-flying/
http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2004/12/23/leaning/
http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2005/04/04/power-pitch-stall/
http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2006/12/18/winter-flying-around-the-great-lakes/
http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2006/05/27/crosswind-landings/
http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2006/04/19/separation-not-the-quebec-kind/
http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2006/02/12/v-speeds/
http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2005/12/18/partial-panel-and-fixed-gear/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grant and Michael: thanks for the comments.  I agree with Grant that the IFR check-in can still fit the pattern, and I will try to do my best to post more for Michael.  In the meantime, here are some past postings that might be interesting:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2005/05/19/analog-flying/" rel="nofollow">http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2005/05/19/analog-flying/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2004/12/23/leaning/" rel="nofollow">http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2004/12/23/leaning/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2005/04/04/power-pitch-stall/" rel="nofollow">http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2005/04/04/power-pitch-stall/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2006/12/18/winter-flying-around-the-great-lakes/" rel="nofollow">http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2006/12/18/winter-flying-around-the-great-lakes/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2006/05/27/crosswind-landings/" rel="nofollow">http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2006/05/27/crosswind-landings/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2006/04/19/separation-not-the-quebec-kind/" rel="nofollow">http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2006/04/19/separation-not-the-quebec-kind/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2006/02/12/v-speeds/" rel="nofollow">http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2006/02/12/v-speeds/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2005/12/18/partial-panel-and-fixed-gear/" rel="nofollow">http://www.megginson.com/blogs/lahso/2005/12/18/partial-panel-and-fixed-gear/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Viennatech</title>
		<link>http://lahso.megginson.com/2008/09/06/talking-to-atc-you-me-where-what/#comment-1082</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viennatech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lima-Alpha-Hotel-Sierra,  This is Papa-Foxtrot-Lima at the September 6th post.  Reading your posting was very informative and helpful for this newb!  Request more frequent postings.  Over.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lima-Alpha-Hotel-Sierra,  This is Papa-Foxtrot-Lima at the September 6th post.  Reading your posting was very informative and helpful for this newb!  Request more frequent postings.  Over.</p>
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		<title>By: grant</title>
		<link>http://lahso.megginson.com/2008/09/06/talking-to-atc-you-me-where-what/#comment-1081</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good way to lay it out - very KISS.

For consistency, I&#039;d even suggest that the last IFR &quot;exception&quot; isn&#039;t an exception at all.  The /what/ is either implied or can easily be stated in the same order as your other examples.  I.e. &quot;Halifax terminal, Bravo Juliet Oscar, at three thousand, checking in.&quot;  Or &quot;Halifax terminal, Bravo Juliet Oscar, leaving three thousand for six thousand, (&quot;with you&quot; implied).&quot;  or often: &quot;Halifax terminal, Bravo Juliet Oscar, (location understood from radar and previous contact), requesting direct Montreal.&quot;

Anyway - just to say that it&#039;s a great way to present this often intimidating topic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good way to lay it out &#8211; very KISS.</p>
<p>For consistency, I&#8217;d even suggest that the last IFR &#8220;exception&#8221; isn&#8217;t an exception at all.  The /what/ is either implied or can easily be stated in the same order as your other examples.  I.e. &#8220;Halifax terminal, Bravo Juliet Oscar, at three thousand, checking in.&#8221;  Or &#8220;Halifax terminal, Bravo Juliet Oscar, leaving three thousand for six thousand, (&#8220;with you&#8221; implied).&#8221;  or often: &#8220;Halifax terminal, Bravo Juliet Oscar, (location understood from radar and previous contact), requesting direct Montreal.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; just to say that it&#8217;s a great way to present this often intimidating topic.</p>
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